Imagine an au where Alphys injected dt into more than one flower and there are just like. Five fucking Floweys. all of them soulless, all of them hate each other, all of them Asriel. i mean, there’s no way only *one* seed got ariel’s dust on it.
Would that be fucked up or what?
My only quibble here is that she *did* inject more than one flower with determination, and since there was only one, easily identified first flower it’s kind of implied there was only one original viable seed, but… like… have you ever walked through a field of plants with seeds that catch on fur or cloth. Realistically there should have been a few hundred first flowers.
Someday I will stop thinking just way too hard about Papyrus Undertale.
today is not that day.
IRT the tags, I think it might be Comic Sans and Papyrus Sans, or just Papyrus. And please do ramble on about Flowey’s and Papyrus’ friendship!! There’s some interesting stuff to dig into there, and I like the way you think.
Oh my god Papyrus Sans. This. This is extremely good??? I never even considered the possibility… sans goes by their surname. This is good and you should genuinely be proud of this.
AND I WILL DO SO probably tonight. They both mean a lot to me, and I feel like Toby almost went out of his *way* to re-affirm they have a genuine friendship of some kind (whether Flowey likes it or not) with the whole dinosaur egg cereal thing.
And I have… thoughts. About that. I don’t think they’re as much of a The Odd Couple friendship as they seem like they are.
I agree that they’re named Comic Sans and Papyrus Sans. Those are the fonts they’re named after, after all.
Honestly I know this will sound silly coming off of my last shitpost but words can’t convey how much I love Flowey as a character. It means a lot to me that he didn’t just ~become evil~, he slowly went downhill while trying his damn hardest to love his former friends and family until his- Asriel’s- innocent childlike curiosity drove him to killing. It’s really interesting that Flowey doesn’t just kill because he loves killing, but because he tried kindness over and over again and was failed by it. Showing mercy got him killed.
He was reborn in a world where his gentle goofball dad is killing children with hope in their eyes and his wise leader mother locked herself away out of fear and spite. He has to witness his father living life as if nothing ever changed, even though he has coffins in his basement and blood on his hands. He has to watch his mother adopt child after child to replace him and then pretend as if she never knew them when she lets them go and they get killed.
He has to live in a world where he sees all this pain and misery- overpopulation, crushed dreams, people waiting to die in the dark- and attributes it all as his fault for not committing murder. His purpose in reincarnation wasn’t to make it all right, to be the prince of this world’s future– it was an accident. A mistake. And the only person he thinks that would be able to understand him, his best friend, is dead. Because of him.
It really tugs my heartstrings just how earnestly he speaks to ‘Chara’ in New Home during a No Mercy run. How he’s been driven to madness playing with people that he literally can’t see as sentient beings rather than just lines of code, but he knew Chara would come back for him, he just knew it. How this child who thinks of murder as ‘playing’ would be willing to put aside godlike power and a world of innocents to enact vengeance on just to live in peace on the surface, in the sunlight, with his best friend– even if he knows he could never really love them anyway. It’s not a healthy ideal, mind you, but still, Toby managed to portray Flowey so beautifully and avoided making him just an irredeemable evil in a game about forgiveness.
This doesn’t even touch upon his post-pacifist speech and how he could choose to let Frisk live a life of kindness and peace even if he can never understand it. How he finds some measure of closure and tries to put Chara’s soul (or lack of it) at rest too. I didn’t mean for this post to get so long. I just really am grateful for Flowey.
Idk if this is obvious? For Flowey, the whole “but nobody came” thing, where he wakes up in the garden and calls for help with no response, that’s a Really Big Thing for him, right? It doesn’t seem that terribly traumatic (at least not compared to everything else he’s been through), until you realize something:
It was the middle of the night when he woke up, in the pitch dark.
It becomes a lot more terrifying with the realization that he could see nothing and wouldn’t know where he was. The very last thing he’d be able to remember before just suddenly regaining consciousness, would be having been mortally wounded, stumbling into the garden, and dying.
Being unable to feel his limbs, he was initially immobile, and not being able to see anything but pure dark or hear anything but his own echoing voice, a reasonable assumption follows that he probably thought that he was trapped, presumably forever, in a featureless, voidy afterlife.
That kind of thought would be terrifying enough to traumatize a person on par with a violent death itself, especially if left alone with that thought for several hours. Flowey tells us:
“Eventually” was probably when morning finally came and Asgore woke up and went to check the garden.
(Even more fun: Depending on just how long Flowey was left alone in the dark with his thoughts, the idea probably crossed his mind that this isolated ‘afterlife’ might’ve been a punishment for what he did/didn’t do.)
This experience affected him greatly enough that he incorporates it into his traumatic “play” with Frisk, trying to put them in his former position of being alone and helpless:
(full image on that middle part because I find it interesting that he makes a distorted goat face for that line)
And then, after Frisk calls for help, he says:
Further evidence:
Flowey leaves this echo flower message in runs where Toriel has been killed:
He describes this place-after-death as cold and dark.
And finally, both of the times he gets the chance to “play” with Frisk, the hellscape he chooses for them?…
I’ve seen excellent depictions of the Undertale cast in Disney animation or anime styles, but please consider: an Undertale movie done in LAIKA stop-motion.
honestly just really like undertale 
