doge-w-a-bloge:

“Chara is awake and present in neutral/pacifist as well as NM“ is, from what I can tell at this point, 99% likely to be canon, judging from all the hints and clues people have dug up thus far. It’s hard to think of an alternate explanation for the combined factors of Flowey’s message at the end of True Pacifist about resetting being addressed to the first fallen human (and explicitly NOT to Frisk, who Flowey now recognizes as a separate individual – “Let Frisk live their life”), the SAVE file being in the name of the first fallen human, the “but nobody came“ music on the load/reset screen for a True Reset, and the flashbacks to the first fallen child’s fall and death (sneakily introduced long before the player has the context to know what they’re actually seeing and reading) littered throughout the game.

The remaining 1% in that guesstimate represents “the creator has not explicitly confirmed this, in what TVTropes would call ‘Word of God,’ in totally unambiguous language.” And, welI… I don’t think Toby will ever explicitly confirm it, since it’s clear he was really intent on obfuscating the full extent of the first fallen child’s presence in the game.

“Chara is the narrator“ is more technically arguable, I admit, but it makes sense in light of “Chara is awake and present in all routes“ as an explanation for odd aspects of the narration that can’t just be brushed off as “It’s a quirky rpg with a quirky sense of humor.“

beforuskanaya:

i always see either soft chara who likes knitting and gardening and loves their family or hardcore chara with violent outbursts and manipulation and death. it’s always EITHER OR like why can’t you get both

chara who finds solace in caring for a garden that thrives under their touch, who uses it as proof that they can nurture and not just kill, who has awful compulsive issues and violent meltdowns that often end in broken furniture and tears, who struggles with empathy and cheating and lying but would do anything for the people close to them. that’s the chara i wanna see

A Bag Half-Full, and a Narrator that can be optimistic, pessimistic or sadistic

the-flowey-fan-club:

There’s an interesting clue to the narrator and their state of mind when you check the bag of dog food in the lab.

You see, unlike the dummy and tree, it’s affected by kill count, not LOVE.

If you kill no one…

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The narrator becomes optimistic. They don’t want you to kill. The bag is “half-full”.

If you kill even one person (even a tiny whimsun, who won’t increase your love to even two)

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…the narrator becomes pessimistic. The bag is now “half empty”. Their state of mind is directly changed by you killing even one person.

But if you kill Doggo, and your kill count is 21+….

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The dog bag becomes funny. This is directly affected by killing Doggo and killing more than 20 people. The narrator doesn’t find his death funny before 20 kills. Something has changed in them.

Now, why is that? What kind of narrator becomes affected by you killing things, to the point where they become pessimistic if you even kill once? What kind of narrator becomes sadistic if you kill so many people?

One that is with you. One that shares your EXP and LOVE.  One who becomes distanced as you distance yourself, and violent as you become violent yourself.

One who is looking to you for guidance.

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One who only ever refers to themselves as Chara. One who only ever refers to “you” as Frisk.

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Chara is the narrator, and their view on the world is directly changed by how much you kill.

  • If you kill no one, they’re optimistic. They don’t want you to kill.
  • If you kill even once, they become pessimistic.
  • If you kill over 20 people then they can be sadistic, even on a non-genocide route.

But they do not find Doggo’s death funny unless you kill more than 20 people (which is more than the equivalent of an entire area’s worth of monsters). They did not find it funny before the kills corrupted them, or they would always find his death funny, even without the kills.

Chara’s Level of Violence and Execution Points start at 1 and 0.

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Blog Index (4 theories ect.)

passivechara:

passivechara:

(Passive Chara Theory) "Chara is the narration"
(Worn Dagger vs. Real Knife) “Chara has only 1 Lv from the start.”
(Soul Inheritance Theory) "What if Frisk’s soul was Chara’s reincarnate?“
(Chara’s “True” Battle) “Chara vs. the power of Reset”
(The Seven Magicians and Sealing the Monsters) “An Act of Mercy?”
(What happens when Determined humans die covered in Dust?) “Zombies?”
(The Seven Souls and Seven RPG Archetypes) “How you live, how you play”
(Variables vs. Values) “Ball is Life”
(Chara vs. Humanity) “I attempt to figure out Chara’s complex feelings”
(Hang out with Papyrus) “Papyrus teaches us the importance of friendships”
(Chara’s Vocab) “Chara is full of hot air and big words”
(Crouching Narrator, Hidden Chara) “Chara’s literally a ghost writer”
(Dreemurr Family Dynamic) “Goat Fam Chart”
(Golden “Aster” Flowers) “possible species of Golden Flowers”
(First person escapist) “Chara inside Frisk’s Soul?”
(Grave Flower Theory) “again, what if Zombies?”
(Chara/Alphys parallels) “I will free everyone mentality”
(Chara say Popato) “Chara say Popato”
(Soul Shattering) “a visual metaphor”
(Narration for Frisk’s benefit) “nice you can see from this angle”
(Things Change in the year 201X) “a New Home”
(4 Reasons why Chara and Frisk aren’t Self Inserts) “4 or more" 
(Human vs Monster Magic) “Utility vs Expression”
(How Humans and Monsters cast magic) “power drawn in and around”
(Why didn’t Chara Reset?) “a loss of determination”
(Chara’s Eidolon) “created by your actions”
(Grave Flowers expanded) "grave digging deeper”
(Golden Flowers = Bidens ceruna) “the golden flower conspiracy”
(Not the greatest) “when the greatest turns out not to be”
(Chara’s Plan) “Flowey tells us why”
(Buttercup Trivia) “Farmers used to feed it to cows for yellower butter”
(Laughing to Hide The Pain) “the Migospel truth”
(Asgore sees Chara in Frisk) “the humans are more alike than you think”
(Goat Family Onomatology) “what’s in a name?”
(Of Needles and Dark Dragon’s) “Mother 3 connections”
(Chara did not Force Asriel) “He went along with it until the village”
(To Check is Chara) “our monster expert”
(Chara does not find the amalgamate amusing) “but it’s not funny”
(He’ll do it for You) “Asgore trusts Chara”
(Beware of Sans) “He’s out of this world”
(Delta Theory) “the possible origin story of Undertale”
(A Message in the Code) “I your humble servant, will follow you to the utmost”
(Chara and the Fallen) “is there a connection?”
(Chara, Frisk, and the Player) “our character lenses”
(Chara in three answers) “a response to Chara discourse”
(Chara’s flaws) “an analysis of what we know”

Reblogs
(Chara Discourse) ((so many ppl wrote good stuff here))
(Chara is Hope)
(Chara/Flowey parallel)
(Chara/Undyne parallel)
(Frisk and Chara’s capacity for both good and evil)
(Chara and RPG morality)
(Papyrus Appreciation posts)
(Things Chara is beyond a Soulless Murderer)
(New Home Narration Comparison)
(Buttercup Poisoning)
(Narrator Chara and “But it’s not funny” laughter)
(Chara’s family picture)
(Narrator Chara bullet points)
(Chara Musings)
(Chara didn’t force Frisk on a killing spree)
(Hope in your eyes)
(Most monsters aren’t trying to kill you)
(Chara is not a demon)
(Chara’s true nature is hidden to test the Player)
(Undertale Timeline)
(Don’t Goat Breaking my Heart)
(“I see two lovers…”)
(Chara can be SAVED)
(You stole Frisk’s Soul: branch1; branch2)
(A logical breakdown of how Chara is Narrator)
(Flowey’s Speech to Chara)
(Monster’s need Hope)
(Chara = Narrator on all routes)
(Fallen-down: Frisk, Chara, and Sans)
(Sans and the Shopkeep)
(Asriel’s growth and regression)
(Chara loved to Draw)
(“It’s the End” and other FF4 parallels)
(Proof Chara is not a psychopath/sociopath)
(Chara the Star, and the Void)
(Bad Opinion Zone: one of you is a weeb)
(Gerson and History Books)
(You/the point of Undertale)
(Asriel and Flowey, same person)
(Dimensional Box Meta)
(To remove LOVE, and another FF4 reference)
(Chara is Evil is a Cop-out)
(Kids don’t know about buttercup poisoning)
(Goldn Flowers are Bidins)
(Small Shock is Chara’s theme)
(Save your friends masterpost)
(Live A Live connection)
(Chara and the Spear of Justice)

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