Okay, so, I see a lot of fanart of Undyne eating fish and then finding out what it is and being Horrified, but consider:
Fish eat other fish all the time IRL (and Undyne’s chompers are not exactly geared towards vegetarianism)
It’s Undyne we’re talking about. “You have to time the pukes” Undyne.
She would maybe freak out at first, until Frisk or Asgore explained that most animal life on the surface is not in fact sapient or even kind of intelligent, and then she’d revel in it. Consider:
One Thursday morning she calls up Asgore all “hey, so, you’re still into quiche and pie and stuff, right? Cool, that’s what I’ll bring for the potluck this weekend. Love you” and absolutely nobody is prepared to see the stargaziest of pies
On a related note, at one point she asks Toriel “hey do you own any skewers or whatever? I want to make something on those for our next cooking lesson but they have to be metal” and Toriel is like, sure, fine, but then, when Undyne actually shows up for the next lesson with two pairs of thick rubber gloves, a bag full of eels, a car battery and one of Alphys’s toolboxes, she has to excuse herself to take some aspirin
Whenever they go out for sushi she inevitably starts holding the pieces above her head and doing the Jaws Poster Act. If the only people in the group are adults she’ll stop if you ask, but if Frisk or Kid is around not only will she refuse but she will actively encourage them to get in on the action too. (”The kid has no arms! It would be way ruder not to do this!”)
Sometimes people who visit Muffet’s cafe are shitty about the whole spider pastry thing, and when she’s there to see it happen, Undyne will immediately muscle her way to the front of the line and order a bagel with lox. When it’s handed to her she waves it away. “More salmon, please.” “No, more.” “That’s still not enough! Come on!” and so on until the normies shut up or she becomes unsure that she can actually open her mouth wide enough to take a bite.
This is all excellent. Also, I don’t even think she’d freak out at first. I mean, monsters have burgers and snail pies, so I’m pretty sure they understand the concept of food animals. Maybe it’s just because as a former marine bio major I’ve read entirely too much about fish eating other fish, but really, you might as well expect a human to freak out when they discover they’ve been eating mammal. Undyne’s teeth are those of a predator, a scavenger, or both. It’s entirely possible she primarily eats fish.
Slightly off topic: I’ve written before about my suspicion that Undyne hates ice cream in part because carnivores often can’t taste sweet, so to her it’d just be cold blandness, and that the pink “ice cream” Alphys makes tastes good to Undyne because it’s actually meat based. (Before anyone says “no it’s seaweed flavored”, Alphys says she used seaweed to make the ice cream, but not that it was flavoring. Carrageenan, a derivative of certain seaweeds, is already an ingredient in most ice cream! It acts as a thickening/gelling agent, making the ice cream smoother and creamier.) This would additionally be a factor in hating soda and thinking bananas are acceptable spaghetti sauce ingredients. I would like to go one step further and propose a headcanon: The pink stuff Alphys makes is salmon-flavored, possibly using wild salmon that swim in from the bay. Undyne’s favorite ice cream flavor is salmon.
Some of this is going to be retreading old info for old readers, but others tuff is new support, so bear with what you know .There may be something I’ve not mentioned yet. Here’s the full direction I’m about to take this: Chara is the reason that monsters moved out of the RUINS and into
To cover old ground, I’d like to talk about the number of chairs and beds in HOME. In HOME, there are three, two adult sized, one child sized.
Three people lived here, these chairs seem to say to me.Two adults and one child. Asriel and his parents. Compare this to NEW HOME.
Two child-sized chairs and two adult sized chairs. Four peyple lived here. Chara, Asriel, Asgore and Toriel. Likewise, there are two beds in NEW HOEM and one bed in HOME.
It’s possible that Toriel could have remodeled the kids’ room a little though, right? I mean, she’s presumably only taking care of one child at a time. Surely she’s changed things. The current state of the kids’ room is no indication of what it was like when Asriel was there.
Or is it?
We find this bit of script from a particular section of the strings that includes details like this. I’m talking in the same section that has stuff on ‘goofy rocks’ and early Toriel. RUINS. HOME.
This could be talking about his room in NEW HOME though, right? Its location in the strings is not proof, it’s correlation, and that’s not worth much at all. But there’s other things to be aware of …
There’s a lamp in the far right corner, yes, but we don’t interact with it. Those alarms, those are there to help with programming specific events, and situations. And we don’t really interact with his bed in any meaningful way that would require that many alarms. Doesn’t fit. And as I pointed out, this is back in the RUINS. There’s really only one thing that this script could be talking about, right … ?
Now, what’s interesting is that this clarifies that not only was this room formerly Asriel’s but that it hasn’t actually changed that much since the Dreemurrs left for NEW HOME . The lamp, the bed, they are all ‘Asriel’s. Which, while cute, is also super morbid. That’s not the point though.
The point is that this room has not changed. That Toriel has not refurnished Asriel’s room in preparation for the fallen humans. And that therefore, if Chara had a bed here once, it would still BE here.
That means that Chara’s fall happened before the move. But, isn’t it possible that Asriel already lived in NEW HOME when Chara fell, and then took Chara home? I had only conjecture to suggest this wasn’t true: ‘wouldn’t Asriel not wander that far from his home? Coulod he have carried an injured Chara all the way to the castle in NEW HOME?’ But that was all I had. Until now.
You see, @doge-w-a-bloge found something very interesting in the strings. Monster history books that we never see in the game to accompany the two that we see, one in Toriel’s home, and another in the library. There’s more, and they paint an interesting story of the Kingdom of Monster’s timeline.
Immediate reaction: part one and four seem to establish some sort of chronology between them. We’ve read both of them in the game. They’re not just in the String, but part of the file, in books. It’s in order.
Part 1: Monsters are sealed and settle in HOME away from humanity out of fear. Part 2-3: Unknown events. Part 4: Unafraid of humans monsters settled in NEW HOME flush with the Barrier’s edge.
That’s a fair assessment, right? Well, that makes the next chapter we can read interesting.
Part 4: Unafraid of humans monsters settled in NEW HOME flush with the Barrier’s edge Part 5: Unknown Events Part 6: Unfortunately monsters don’t know much about illness. Part 7-8: Detailed chapters on what happens when a human dies and how a monster can absorb their SOUL.
Monsters don’t get ‘sick.’ They sometimes ‘fall down’ but the author recognizes this to being similar to, yet distinct from, whatever makes their lack of knowledge on illness unfortunate. Who is sick, if not a monster? Chara. Why are there chapters on how a monster can absorb a human’s SOUL after the chapter on how their illness was not familiar? Because that’s exactly what Asriel did after Chara died.
So, part five is probably the context where they actually talk about how Chara actually GOT sick. This chapter, where Chara must have been explicitly mentioned, is not included in the list of histories available to us in the strings. The events before the move to NEW HOME that gave Asgore the hope for a peaceful resolution with humanity. These chapters were also not available to us in the strings.
Noticing a pattern? I know I am. Chara is important enough to this hstory that their illness is discussed., and there’s not a lot of room in any of these parts. A handful of sentences, at most. Part 5 must be all about how Chara fell ill, there’s no room for anything else.
But that means that Chara’s existence, as a ‘good human,’ must have been established before. Chara must have been mentioned BEFORE. In part 2, part 3 or both … Before monsters settled NEW HOME, and before monsters overcame their fear of humanity.
There is no way that Chara’s fall and monsters’ sudden courage are coincidence. There is a reason, after all, that Asgore calls Chara ‘the future of humans and monsters.’ He’s not just saying that. He believes it …
Chara is the person who convinced an Asgore who agreed with a Gerson that believed that monsters and humans could NEVER live in peace …
… Chara convinced THAT Asgore he was wrong … Probably by example. Chara is the person who gave the monsters hope for a life under the bright sun, in the overworld. The reason that their death plunged the kingdom into despair, and stole all their hope was that Chara was the CAUSE of that hope. I become increasingly convinced of this by the day.
honestly just really like undertale 